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AGS Fuel Vaporizer & Hydrocarbon Cracking System HCS
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I had thought of that but I was worried about the vacuum on the bubbler. I don't think my hho system would be able to keep up and then it would pull the water through. I do have another low vac valve that I can use so I might try that. It was originally for the air mixture on the fuel vapor system but I did not need it. It just might do the trick as I can adjust it.. Thanks for the input.Wink EDIT: Ok so I went ahead and did that and I was able to adjust it so that it only takes what the hho system gives. My HHO system is a very poor design and I will be eventually getting a dry cell to replace it. I should then see some better results.
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11-26-2011 10:08 AM
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Hey everybody, it's been a few days. Enjoyed my turkey and stuffing. I had a little time to do some tinkering with the car this weekend and thought I would put my HHO system back in with a couple of tweaks to see if I could get some more HHO for my amps but alas, my design was still wanting ( I need a dry cell ). But one thing I did was to take the output of my HHO system and run it into the air intake valve of my vapor system. I have a valve that I can adjust so that it doesn't take to much vacuum. I then re adjusted my EFIE down to about .100mv and reset the ECU ( disconnected the battery for about a hour ). After that I took it out for a spin after letting it warm up. All I can say is wow. I immediately noticed an increase in power and torque. It was very noticeable. I also did not have to give it near as much gas as normal to get the same power. Also one other thing I did is turn my throttle sensor back just a little bit. By doing this my ECU thinks that I am not pushing the throttle as far and gives less gas and more Air. The result was a much leaner running motor with much more power and torque. So now when I finally get my dry cell HHO system I will continue on this idea and see how much else I can get it to do. CheersCool
11-28-2011 05:51 PM
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AGS Fuel Vaporizer & Hydrocarbon Cracking System HCS
(10-11-2011 02:33 PM)rpatzer Wrote:  Thor- are you saying you "officially" smogged your car? The smogger didn't object to your vaporizer instal? And are you saying that with the vaporizer, it improved all numbers?

rpatzer, I looked at my records "test records" and the emissions were reduced with the vaporizer mpg system at the smog/emissions center. A friend of mine at the smog center said most states (with the current EPA rules) should not bother anyone trying. On another post I must have missed, you ask if I use the "solenoid" for the fuel rail shrader. Are those electronic, or mechanical? Smile
Remember, you have the one on http://www.agsint.com/atom.htm website where the one I have with the test is on this http://www.agsvaporizermpg.com website.

I forgot to ask the sales guy when I bought mine if they have a diesel vaporizer system? Would be any chance know if AGS Vaporizer does?
11-29-2011 08:44 AM
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(11-29-2011 08:44 AM)Thor Wrote:  
(10-11-2011 02:33 PM)rpatzer Wrote:  Thor- are you saying you "officially" smogged your car? The smogger didn't object to your vaporizer instal? And are you saying that with the vaporizer, it improved all numbers?

rpatzer, I looked at my records "test records" and the emissions were reduced with the vaporizer mpg system at the smog/emissions center. A friend of mine at the smog center said most states (with the current EPA rules) should not bother anyone trying. On another post I must have missed, you ask if I use the "solenoid" for the fuel rail shrader. Are those electronic, or mechanical? Smile
Remember, you have the one on http://www.agsint.com/atom.htm website where the one I have with the test is on this http://www.agsvaporizermpg.com website.



forgot to ask the sales guy when I bought mine if they have a diesel vaporizer system? Would be any chance know if AGS Vaporizer does?

Are you saying that even your NOx numbers were reduced? Is this with or without the EFIE? I see that your system doesn't use the solenoid switch. How do you not "flood" your system when the car is turned off and the high pressure will "bleed" out?
11-29-2011 10:20 AM
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(11-29-2011 10:20 AM)rpatzer Wrote:  
(11-29-2011 08:44 AM)Thor Wrote:  
(10-11-2011 02:33 PM)rpatzer Wrote:  Thor- are you saying you "officially" smogged your car? The smogger didn't object to your vaporizer instal? And are you saying that with the vaporizer, it improved all numbers?

rpatzer, I looked at my records "test records" and the emissions were reduced with the vaporizer mpg system at the smog/emissions center. A friend of mine at the smog center said most states (with the current EPA rules) should not bother anyone trying. On another post I must have missed, you ask if I use the "solenoid" for the fuel rail shrader. Are those electronic, or mechanical? Smile
Remember, you have the one on http://www.agsint.com/atom.htm website where the one I have with the test is on this http://www.agsvaporizermpg.com website.


forgot to ask the sales guy when I bought mine if they have a diesel vaporizer system? Would be any chance know if AGS Vaporizer does?

Are you saying that even your NOx numbers were reduced? Is this with or without the EFIE? I see that your system doesn't use the solenoid switch. How do you not "flood" your system when the car is turned off and the high pressure will "bleed" out?


My NOx was lower and no, I did not use the EFIE with that vehicle ... I used their new exclusive 02 sensor clean-up and reset instructions for that. Seemed to work real well, just as they said it would work.
The have a built-in check valve that [apparently] took the place of the solenoid your talking about. Smile
Either way, I was pleasantly surprised to see its success - it keeps from flooding apparently by their patent pending calibration and that check valve. So only the correct [minimal amount] of fuel travels through that valve. Big Grin Kind of a neat way of a design.
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11-29-2011 04:50 PM
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Thor- what is this about? "I used their new exclusive 02 sensor clean-up and reset instructions for that"
Glad to see your NOx also came down.
I am planning on using the same vaporizer. Does your car have the schrader valve or did you tap into the high pressure line?
11-29-2011 05:23 PM
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(11-29-2011 05:23 PM)rpatzer Wrote:  Thor- what is this about? "I used their new exclusive 02 sensor clean-up and reset instructions for that"
Glad to see your NOx also came down.
I am planning on using the same vaporizer. Does your car have the schrader valve or did you tap into the high pressure line?

rpatzer, my uncle bought one fall 2010 and there wasn't one in his kit but, there was one in my kit this last spring. Apparently they have a new design when installig to correct "flooding and solenoid use" cause mine is all mechanical and works great. Smile
Yes, mine has the shrader valve stem and that's where I connected as well. The 02 instructions tell you how to check for 02 sensors problems, its very easy to do, or at least it was for me. Big Grin

I just didn't see it on their http://www.agsint.com/atom.htm - or - http://www.agsvaporizermpg.com websites.
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(11-29-2011 06:10 PM)Thor Wrote:  
(11-29-2011 05:23 PM)rpatzer Wrote:  Thor- what is this about? "I used their new exclusive 02 sensor clean-up and reset instructions for that"
Glad to see your NOx also came down.
I am planning on using the same vaporizer. Does your car have the schrader valve or did you tap into the high pressure line?

rpatzer, my uncle bought one fall 2010 and there wasn't one in his kit but, there was one in my kit this last spring. Apparently they have a new design when installig to correct "flooding and solenoid use" cause mine is all mechanical and works great. Smile
Yes, mine has the shrader valve stem and that's where I connected as well. The 02 instructions tell you how to check for 02 sensors problems, its very easy to do, or at least it was for me. Big Grin

How do you check for O2 sensor problems? I am installing an AFR Meter to monitor the O2 signal to computer to make sure I stay in "balance".
I just didn't see it on their http://www.agsint.com/atom.htm - or - http://www.agsvaporizermpg.com websites.
11-30-2011 08:09 AM
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(11-30-2011 08:09 AM)rpatzer Wrote:  
(11-29-2011 06:10 PM)Thor Wrote:  
(11-29-2011 05:23 PM)rpatzer Wrote:  Thor- what is this about? "I used their new exclusive 02 sensor clean-up and reset instructions for that"
Glad to see your NOx also came down.
I am planning on using the same vaporizer. Does your car have the schrader valve or did you tap into the high pressure line?

rpatzer, my uncle bought one fall 2010 and there wasn't one in his kit but, there was one in my kit this last spring. Apparently they have a new design when installig to correct "flooding and solenoid use" cause mine is all mechanical and works great. Smile
Yes, mine has the shrader valve stem and that's where I connected as well. The 02 instructions tell you how to check for 02 sensors problems, its very easy to do, or at least it was for me. Big Grin

How do you check for O2 sensor problems? I am installing an AFR Meter to monitor the O2 signal to computer to make sure I stay in "balance".
I just didn't see it on their http://www.agsint.com/atom.htm - or - http://www.agsvaporizermpg.com websites.

rpatzer, sorry guy, I'll look for me install papers - I hope I didn't toss them. Sad
They aren't on these http://www.agsint.com/atom.htm - or - http://www.agsvaporizermpg.com websites, I already checked. So I think it is a new kit instruction. I know when I did mine, my fuel economy went up from before. Smile
I do remember asking if these work with ethanol fuel and others and apparently both of these systems do. But now, I don't think ethanol is going to be an alternative fuel.
How many 02 sensors do you have?
11-30-2011 04:22 PM
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Thor- I have 2 but I am only going to monitor the upstream one.
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