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Anybody seen the PICC yet?
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Anybody seen the PICC yet?
Check out the technology for the pre injection catalytic converter. Also look at the hydrogen unit. What I want to know about is the box that helps the computer run the car better using the hydrogen. I wonder if there is a way to get that computer module.
11-06-2008 07:40 PM
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RE: Anybody seen the PICC yet?
hedgehog Wrote:Check out the technology for the pre injection catalytic converter. Also look at the hydrogen unit. What I want to know about is the box that helps the computer run the car better using the hydrogen. I wonder if there is a way to get that computer module.

Hello:
Whatever you do , $$$ Buyer be ware. What they offer is just an interface device that modifies the signal to the computer by a small millivolt signal. 0.1 volts to 0.4 volts approximately. Study the facts first. Study all you can in the documents here. Click here and read first. Learn the facts and (then) Make up your own mind. and see the controler box [the efie device] on the product pages here.
http://fuelsaver-mpg.com/affiliates/jrox.php?id=214

As for the Picc. There may be something to the idea, but No I haven't seen it yet. DON'T HOLD YOUR BREATH. I have seen their prices for the hydrogen generator. In my opinion, it is over priced. If you decide to get it, it's your choice. I made my own [hho generator] after studying the facts. It is an on going experiment.

Look at my project pictures at http://waterworks4fuel.com/pictures.html study all the info you can first, because otherwise you, may be disappointed later.

best regards: JT Jim

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11-14-2008 11:46 PM
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RE: Anybody seen the PICC yet?
Their web-site http://www.preignitioncc.com/usar4/index.htm
11-28-2008 02:33 AM
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RE: Anybody seen the PICC yet?
ghahai ghato Wrote:Their web-site http://www.preignitioncc.com/usar4/index.htm

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11-30-2008 09:37 AM
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Gary Offline
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RE: Anybody seen the PICC yet?
Dollar gets you a donut they don't teach you anything we don't allready know here. Man, the stuff people will fall for!
11-30-2008 05:05 PM
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RE: Anybody seen the PICC yet?
Heh , I filed for a quote on their site , I want to see how much they want for their complete setup.

They claim to "Guarantee" 50% better gas mileage with just the HHO setup they sell. That's a pretty bold statement to say the least.

As far as their PICC (Pre Ignition Catalyst) it seems to just be a fuel vaporizer that works off the exhaust system , with the exception that they claim to have some "magic rod" inside the unit to separate the gases to their original elements , what they call "Plasma" .

Thing is , I was thinking about this the other day. Most catalytic converters these days are three way cats , designed to ...

1) Split Nitrogen Oxides to Nitrogen and Oxygen

2) Oxidize Carbon Monoxide to Carbon Dioxide

3) Oxidize Hydrocarbons to Carbon Dioxide and Water.

The " Splitting" phase in the first case is done by passing the 2NO over a material (usually platinum) that separates the two molecules.
Then the O2 is used in the next two phases

The reason this intrigued me is the standard HHO problem of the added oxygen to the system picked up by the O2 sensors. You would think that it would be possible to find a way to "split" the H2 and O2 from HHO by the same means , a catalytic conversion. Thus eliminating the fooling of the ECU with EFIEs.

Anyway , I"m interested to see what their quote is gonna look like , see if I have to give up an arm or a leg Big Grin
12-01-2008 04:48 PM
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Gary Offline
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RE: Anybody seen the PICC yet?
DAYUM! You just gave me a weird, outtadabox thot!
What would happen if we plugged the front o2 sensor hole and bunged in the thing BETWEEN the cat and the rear sensor?
12-01-2008 06:16 PM
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Gary Wrote:DAYUM! You just gave me a weird, outtadabox thot!
What would happen if we plugged the front o2 sensor hole and bunged in the thing BETWEEN the cat and the rear sensor?

Laugh I was thinking the same thing , with all the talk of the rear sensors and what they do to the AFR , what if we just moved the the front sensor closer to the rear one , less O2 there because some is used by the cat , hmmm......
12-01-2008 06:33 PM
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Hmmm , found an old thread about this in the Fuel vapor forum Shy


http://www.fuel-saver.org/showthread.php?tid=56
12-01-2008 07:30 PM
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Gary Offline
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Hm. That pretty much dead -ended. I was surprised to see Shane involved with it, but at least we have some theory now. Sounds complicated.
...and I DO believe in zeropoint energy. I just don't know if anyone's really produced it yet, since all the old inventions seem to have disappeared.
12-02-2008 06:32 AM
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