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Okay, so I've heard about this HHO stuff before but I just kind of blew it off until today. I've been researching and trying to find all the information that I can on how they work, what they do, etc. I kind of understand what this stuff does now, and I think I know what I need.... but I'm just here to double check and hopefully get pointed in the right direction.

So, I need the actual system and the EFIE, correct?

Now, here's my main question...

I'm looking for the most efficient, yet reasonably priced system that I can find. I'm currently driving a 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 with a 5.7L Hemi. I love the 345HP, but not the gas that it drinks. Never would've bought it if I would've known how expensive Washington is... both gas and insurance. I spend about half my check on that, then probably another quarter on gas. I just love where the Army sends you. Anyway, enough griping... can anyone help me out?
05-26-2008 02:59 AM
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RE: Complete Newb
My advice would be to read more, you'll learn a lot that way.

You'll probably need the double EFIE since you probably have 2 pre-cat o2 sensors with the V-style engine (V8). You need to make sure you have narrow band sensors (not air-fuel sensors or wide band sensors), since that's the only kind that work with the EFIE. Since you have an '03, you're probably ok there. With a large engine, you'll need a lot of hho, probably should think 2 hho cells.

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05-26-2008 06:21 AM
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Well, my main thing is brand or whatever. Would the ones on eBay be sufficient or are there issues with too many scams with these products. Looking at this one.
05-26-2008 01:52 PM
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Personally, I would not install a cell that uses wire or a glass housing, but there are many people here that got results with them (before their wire rusted).

Check out this Smack vs Hyzor thread.

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05-26-2008 02:06 PM
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colchiro Wrote:Personally, I would not install a cell that uses wire or a glass housing, but there are many people here that got results with them (before their wire rusted).

Check out this Smack vs Hyzor thread.

colchiro, i have a question and a comment.the comment is; i have several friends that have built the glass jar system and used the better wire(stainless or nickle) with no major problems and a couple has had it for a year.
i am still reading to see which one i want to build and of course cost is important.some one here in fla is selling a system called the hydro 4000 for appox $1300 and said the price will rise to $1900 after the intro,to much for me.so,what is the appox cost for the Smack or Hyzor system ?
as i said i am intrested in a system and i alreadt ordered the efie from mike,just need to pick the system.thanks
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05-27-2008 04:33 AM
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I think the Smack and Hyzor run about $300, maybe less, for parts and instructions (you build it). I've heard some people substituted 316L stainless (higher quality) for light switch plates in the Smacks.

I suspect the over $1,000 systems, if they install and setup (and they know what they're doing), might appeal to someone with 2 left thumbs, or no time to mess with it. I'd probably consider it if they could guarantee 10+ mpg and warranty their work.

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05-27-2008 05:31 PM
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