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Does the injection point of HHO mater???
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Roland Jacques Offline
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Does the injection point of HHO mater???
-Does it make any difference whether we inject HHO closer to the combustion chambers or not????

If you have direct experience with this please state so. I'm just trying to get to the bottom of this & sort out whether this is just a rumor or not.
09-02-2009 06:00 PM
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RE: Does the injection point of HHO mater???
Hello
I had the HHO in the vakuum part and now before the throttle with an air-pumpe. I can't see big difference in my results list.
But I can see, that less of Ampere use gives more saving.

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09-02-2009 08:32 PM
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RE: Does the injection point of HHO mater???
Thanks for that info Martin

When installing directly on the intake system, does injecting it closer to the throttle body perform better. Or do you get the same or better results injecting it before the air filter.

Does anybody else have any experience seeing this one way or the other.
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09-03-2009 03:55 AM
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RE: Does the injection point of HHO mater???
(09-03-2009 03:55 AM)Roland Jacques Wrote:  Thanks for that info Martin

When installing directly on the intake system, does injecting it closer to the throttle body perform better. Or do you get the same or better results injecting it before the air filter.

Does anybody else have any experience seeing this one way or the other.

Vacuum HHO feed is the BEST, but is NOT for everyone...If you don't know
what you are doing you will damage the engine...
09-03-2009 05:56 PM
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RE: Does the injection point of HHO mater???
(09-03-2009 03:55 AM)Roland Jacques Wrote:  When installing directly on the intake system, does injecting it closer to the throttle body perform better. Or do you get the same or better results injecting it before the air filter.

I think it's a question of the arrangement.
H is the lightest gas. It will mixe fast.

When the throttle is on top, then diagonally descending axis of air filters and intake comes, before the air filter can also work.

Try it out and compare the results of at least a 1 / 3 tank.

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09-03-2009 08:52 PM
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RE: Does the injection point of HHO mater???
I see a couple of 'issues' with putting it directly into a vacuum space.

1) the issue of backfire if you don't have a spark arrestor. You could get an explosion in your hydrolyzer.

2) the issue of a leak in your hose system, causing a leak in your vacuum system, causing poor engine performance.

I've put the gas in downstream of the air filter and upstream of the air filter. I saw no difference in resluts from doing that. The HHO gasses are going to mix quickly with the intake air and travel to the throttle body at a high rate of speed. I can't see any real advantage of putting the gasses directly into the vacuum space..FWIW.
09-04-2009 09:30 AM
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RE: Does the injection point of HHO mater???
(09-04-2009 09:30 AM)bsmart Wrote:  I've put the gas in downstream of the air filter and upstream of the air filter. I saw no difference in resluts from doing that. The HHO gasses are going to mix quickly with the intake air and travel to the throttle body at a high rate of speed.
Thanks,
Personally i have always liked the idea that further away the better, for the sake of better mixing of the gases.
I was looking for experiences trying it both ways, like you have. Thanks again.
09-04-2009 10:53 AM
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RE: Does the injection point of HHO mater???
Hi all

I install past the air mass sensor on air intake manifold and run a internal pipe towards turbo or air fuel inlet this creates a nice vortex to suck that HHO in!
12-04-2009 02:53 PM
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RE: Does the injection point of HHO mater???
(12-04-2009 02:53 PM)Hydro-Cell UK Wrote:  Hi all

I install past the air mass sensor on air intake manifold and run a internal pipe towards turbo or air fuel inlet this creates a nice vortex to suck that HHO in!
Do not let the HHO flow over the MAF! Many MAFs use a heated filament and running HHO over that filament will burn it out (oxidize it) very quickly.
12-05-2009 10:49 AM
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