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Dry Cell Project - "NEW VIDEOS"
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Dry Cell Project - "NEW VIDEOS"
The cell is made up of 36 - 316L stainless steel plates measuring 8"x8" with neoprene gaskets between each plate. This is a 7 cell design. I will be using a custom 80 amp PWM and a DEIFE to control my O2 sensor. Also the system will be wired through a oil pressure switch, doing so makes the entire system safer to operate due to the engine needed to be running for the cell to operate.The cell block is configured as follows, -nnnn+nnnn-nnnn+nnnn-nnnn+nnnn-nnnn+

You will see in the drawing I am using two bubblers with Vinegar in the last bubbler to clean the HHO gas before entering the intake.

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RE: Dry Cell Project
As you can see everything will be neatly behind the front bumper with the last bubbler inside the hood mounted on the firewall. The final bubbler will have a sarran wrap blow plug as well. The final assembly will be made once I have the entire bracket made and it has been powered coated. I have yet to decide where the PWM will mount but it needs to be under the hood and so that I can make adjustments to the pots.

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RE: Dry Cell Project
Here are photos of the cell mounted. I took a piece of ¾” PCV flat stock, cut it to the width of the inside of the end plates. Next I machined out a 3” wide grove and ½” deep so the cell rest over the cross member I built and installed. Next I bought a product called “Make Your Own Hose Clamp. This material comes in lengths up to 50’ if needed. Using the stainless steel hose clamps I clamp the cell to the cross member. It’s a very ridged mount and the cell will not move.

Thought I would share a photo I received from the maker of my cell. This is how you remove all finger prints, dust, etc. before building the cell. Also take not that the plates are NOT sanded as some are doing to their cell plates. There is no solid proof that I have read that says sanding the plates helps HHO production... I think what’s going on is there is a lot of BACK YARD mechanic work going on and being reported with no proof to back it up…

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RE: Dry Cell Project
In talking with Sid Young I have decided to remove the cell and take the entire cell apart and run all the stainless steel plates through the dishwasher. Also the neoprene gaskets will be run through the wash machine. To re-assemble I am to use rubber gloves to handle all pieces. Once the cell is together Sid recommends not to over tightening the nylon nuts as the new cleaned plates and gaskets will adhere to each other.

Wiring will be complete this coming weekend and I hope to begin testing soon. I want to get photos of the spark plugs for reference before I begin to add HHO to the system. I may purchase a new O2 sensor as it is recommended to replace the O2 sensors at 100,000 miles even though I am still 30,000 miles from this mark.

Then I will road test the truck to get mileage readings for my records before HHO is used. I will be using Distilled Water and Potassium Hydroxide. I will begin with 4 or 5 gallon jugs each with measured different amounts of Potassium Hydroxide. With DC amp meter in hand I will take readings of each gallon used after flushing the system between testing. I want to get the maximum output and not exceed 65 AMPS.

Also this week I plan to build my flow meter using a revised version of Zero Fossil Fuels meter. When testing begins the videos will begin and posted on my YouTube account with links on this site.

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RE: Dry Cell Project
Now I understand why neoprene is used for gaskets to seal these cells that have a number of plates. When washed and cleaned of the powder that is placed on the neoprene gaskets the neprene is very sticky. Furthermore I understand why nylon all-thread is used, it takes very little pressure to seal the cell. In fact once the plates are stacked on top and with the neoprene gaskets in between each plate it is nearly impossible to pull the plates apart even without the nuts on either side.

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RE: Dry Cell Project - Updated Photos 12-05-08
Photos of the finished soldering of the terminals and wiring. I used THHN #10 wire as it has a tough insulation and fits my needs.

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RE: Dry Cell Project
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RE: Dry Cell Project
benny Wrote:
DodgeViper Wrote:Reserved For Future Information

You forgot to leave space for comments and feedbackTongue

No I did not forget, there is plenty of room below my posts. Once I am done with the install I will remove any remaining "Reserved For Future Information" pages

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