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HHO on Turbo Diesel
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Sad HHO on Turbo Diesel
I am still getting no joy after fitting a Dry Cell onto my Saab TDi. It is putting out around 1 LPM of gas at 19 amps, output hose is connected to the air intake a couple of inches before the Turbo. Have checked that there is no 02 sensor but there is a MAF sensor after the air filter. I have also changed several locations of the hho output hoseSad at the air filter box, before and after the Maf sensor and also before the Turbo. I have also seen several YOUTUBE clips on fitting to Turbo Diesels and found mines to be similar.
Please any help ?????
11-07-2009 06:32 AM
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RE: HHO on Turbo Diesel
Spreading your info over several posts doesn't help. It's nice to keep all the details in one post. Wink

Have you gone thru Mike's debugging checklist (click my Documents link, look for "HHO System Debug Checklist")?

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11-07-2009 09:05 AM
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RE: HHO on Turbo Diesel
(11-07-2009 09:05 AM)colchiro Wrote:  Spreading your info over several posts doesn't help. It's nice to keep all the details in one post. Wink

Have you gone thru Mike's debugging checklist (click my Documents link, look for "HHO System Debug Checklist")?

Sorry for the spreading, will keep each subject in one in future, will take my car to have it diagnosed next week and see any problems, thanks
11-07-2009 05:15 PM
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(11-07-2009 05:15 PM)pdai11 Wrote:  take my car to have it diagnosed next week and see any problems, thanks

You have two ways to win.
a) Lot of HHO with 1/2 of all AMPs of the alternator.
b) a very little mount of HHO at 1-2 AMP

With HHO you will have too much O2 in the output of engine.

If your car has O2-Sensor you will treed the systems with EFIE, MAP or Electrical Diverter (eagle-research.com)

Ford C-Max 1.8i flexfuel (petrol)
Victor-Tupperware-Cell
4x 5N at 1-2AMP
20% less Liter/100km
11-08-2009 03:03 AM
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RE: HHO on Turbo Diesel
(11-08-2009 03:03 AM)martinruf Wrote:  [quote='pdai11' pid='30419' dateline='1257642956']
take my car to have it diagnosed next week and see any problems, thanks

You have two ways to win.
a) Lot of HHO with 1/2 of all AMPs of the alternator.
b) a very little mount of HHO at 1-2 AMP

With HHO you will have too much O2 in the output of engine.

If your car has O2-Sensor you will treed the systems with EFIE, MAP or Electrical Diverter (eagle-research.com)



Hi Martin, sorry, i don't really understand what you mean by 1/2 amp from the alternator or 1-2 amp. can you please state a little more details, thanks.
11-08-2009 04:02 PM
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RE: HHO on Turbo Diesel
(11-08-2009 04:02 PM)pdai11 Wrote:  
(11-08-2009 03:03 AM)martinruf Wrote:  You have two ways to win.
a) Lot of HHO with 50% of all AMPs of the alternator.
b) a very little mount of HHO at 1-2 AMP
With HHO you will have too much O2 in the output of engine.
If your car has O2-Sensor you will deceive the systems with EFIE, MAP or Electrical Diverter (eagle-research.com)
Hi Martin, sorry, i don't really understand what you mean by 1/2 amp from the alternator or 1-2 amp. can you please state a little more details, thanks.
I read here often of HHO-production with 16 AMPs or higher. I read about an Nissan Micro witch use 50% of all alternator force for the HHO production. He had success.

My personal experience shows in the other direction. I have a wet-cell 4x 6N (5*8cm). <4 AMP, I had the good savings to 20%. I had started with the proposals in this forum even at 16 amp. Without savings. Chance had brought me to the fact that with <6 AMP, the savings grew. 1-2 AMP the saving is still 20%. I'm looking forward to minimize the size of the wet-cell.

My connection in austria had the same experience with diesel. He has 25-35% savings.

Ford C-Max 1.8i flexfuel (petrol)
Victor-Tupperware-Cell
4x 5N at 1-2AMP
20% less Liter/100km
11-09-2009 01:08 PM
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RE: HHO on Turbo Diesel
Hi Martin, the problem with Dry Cell is it needs more amp to circulate the HHO from the Cell to the reservoir. I have tried adjusting to different ampege from 8 to 20 amps. I have heard many people unsuccessful on Turbo Diesels.
11-09-2009 04:23 PM
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RE: HHO on Turbo Diesel
I installed this system on a 2008 voltswagon jetta turbo diesel, and it now gets 67 mpg

http://www.dc-hybrids.com/S-Series-Diese...diesel.htm


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RE: HHO on Turbo Diesel
Hi, would you be kind enough to give me guidance, i am using a 4 x 8" 19 plate dry cell with PWM running at around 17 amps, around 1 LPM of HHO and single hose is connected 7 inches before Turbo. Without the cell, i'm getting 40 mpg, when the cell is switched on, i'm getting 36 mpg.
01-17-2010 06:35 AM
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(01-17-2010 06:35 AM)pdai11 Wrote:  Hi, would you be kind enough to give me guidance, i am using a 4 x 8" 19 plate dry cell with PWM running at around 17 amps, around 1 LPM of HHO and single hose is connected 7 inches before Turbo. Without the cell, i'm getting 40 mpg, when the cell is switched on, i'm getting 36 mpg.

What is the vehicle you are installing on? What is the configuration of the cell. The cell is not very efficient, at 17 amps you need a cell that will get you 2lpm. You need more hydrogen to compensate for the loss of horse power from the extra amp. Or if it is a newer vehicle it might have emission controls

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