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*!* Hi all!. Dry Cell on Carb 1.5L, After Some Tests 50% :D *!*
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Hi to all.
I'm Gatech, from Colombia.

I bought a Kit of Dry Cell that appears to be good.

It's a 12 plate 316L:

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I have a Fiat 125 76", Carburetted 1500c.c. Engine is recently repaired (and working so well).

I followed seller instructions mixing 1L of water with KOH (that came with the Kit). I mixed 2 teaspoons with the solid KOH, getting 18A with the PWM at maximum (opened). After that I moved the PWM to get maximum 10A.



Some things I have to say:

- On my car, when I'm not accelerating, Amps drop down (when Cell is cold), when it's "hot", Amps are more constant.
- When lights are on, they usually lower a little.


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I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH HHO IS PRODUCED, but I tested by the end tube on water, and it makes a lot of burbles.


After that, I put the end tube over the Carburettor, like 2-3cm over it, pointing to the "mouths" (venturys called here):

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Base line (city): 25Km/gal - 15.54MPG.
Base line (highway aprox): 30-32Km/Gal


- First test:
I tried with a lot. 10A when accelerating. But after 1 hour, it got upto 10.5A - 11A accelerating. Not accelerating, like 8A-9A.
Results: NEGATIVE. 12% LESS : ( 13.79MPG.

- Second Test:
I tried with 9A at MOST when accelerating, and "hot". I drove on highway, with no traffic (sunday), and I got 22.14MPG. Highway Baseline: APROX 18.6MPG. I won approx 18% - 22% : ) .

- Third Test:
Again driving on the city, with PWM limited only to let at MOST 8A ("hot" and accelerating), and driving with few traffic today I got 17.26MPG. I got only 11.1% more : (

- 4rd, 5th, 6th test: 25%, 40% AND 50%. CHECK ABOVE POSTS!



- I didn't feel more HP when trying the first time HHO on. If it got more HP, could be like 5% more, so I didn't feel it : (.

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04-22-2012 08:28 AM
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RE: ** Hi all!. Dry Cell on Carb 1.5L, NEGATIVE RESULTS!... Help!!!!! **
UPDATE:

Today I did a 51.3Km trip but on Highway (so the results aren't completely accurate). I used 1.44Gal at refull. 35.63Km/gal - 22.14MPG.
Today is Sunday, and the trip was equal to driving out of the city, so I consider, normally car spends 29 - 30Km/Gal or 18 - 18.6MPG (without HHO) so if I am not bad I got 18.8% - 22.9% MORE MPG Big Grin

Remember that I moved the PWM to make at most 8A max (today when running more than 1 hour, it got upto 9A), but is less than 10.5 - 11 than the first time.

Is possible that I won this time... but was Highway so the results aren't the most accurate.


I'll continue testing. Next time PWM won't make more than 8A, I lowered it a little more Wink.


Regards, and I wait for your comments.
Gatech.
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You are drawing way too many amps for that engine size. You should be drawing about 7 amps at the most. Draw out most of your electrolyte and replace with steam distilled water. If the amp draw is below 7 amps, I would try driving that way for a tankful before adding electrolyte. But do not let it draw more than 7 amps. You will see your gains.

Then you can try drawing a little more, since you will be curious about whether you can improve your gains even more. But you will find that gains reduce as you add more electrolyte, so when that happens, go back to 7 amps.

As you probably already know, the amps go down because your alternator cannot produce the number of amps you are trying to draw from it. When that happens, it reduces it's voltage, and that makes the amps go down. But if is very hard on the alternator. If you keep that up, you will burn it up.

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RE: ** Hi all!. Dry Cell on Carb 1.5L, NEGATIVE RESULTS!... Help!!!!! **
Thanks Mike Wink

As you read on second post, I got 18% more with using at most 9A!.

Now I will test with at most 8A.

I don't need to replace electrolite, as I have PWM with a switch to get Amps lower :P.


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Excellent. You are on the right track.

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By other side, I'm using common water, not distilled :S because the seller told me he got better results with it (distilled got yellow for him in a little time, with KOH). What do you think about that?. Should I replace all water with distilled?.

What differences have you got with water?.
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I am not familiar with your gadjet
but what I can tell you about my gadget from personal experience and feed back
We are getting 2-3 days consistently on our drive cycles, on a tank of gas
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(04-22-2012 06:40 PM)saving you money Wrote:  RE: ** Hi all!. Dry Cell on Carb 1.5L, NEGATIVE RESULTS!... Help!!!!! **
I am not familiar with your gadjet
but what I can tell you about my gadget from personal experience and feed back
We are getting 2-3 days consistently on our drive cycles, on a tank of gas

Hehehe so?. How much MPG are you getting?. Carburatted?. How much is your full tank?.
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Hey. New results.

Driving on city, but with good traffic.

I got for 50Km 1.8Gal: 27.77 Km/Gal : 17.26MPG
City baseline: 15.54MPG.
I got only 11.1% Sad

Cell was working at MAX 8A when it's "hot" and accelerating.
When is not hot 7A, accelerating.
When not accelerating 4-5A, hot: 7-8A.


What am I doing wrong? Sad. I'm sure it's generating HHO, and injecting as I'll show you:

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Next test: 7A MAX.
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I've never seen it done like that. Maybe it works. But I always tap a fitting into the intake air so that the HHO can't escape. With the filter cover reinstalled, and a fitting tapped into place, there's no chance the HHO will not go into the engine.

Maybe its nothing. Maybe what you're doing there is working just as well. But maybe a bunch of your HHO is not actually getting into the engine. I'm not an expert on gas dynamics.

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