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Does anyone know how much HHO is needed to run an IC engine? I suspect it might be something like air fuel ratio (for gasoline it's 14.7:1)
07-13-2008 06:54 AM
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RE: More advice, please...
It changes by engine size, vehicle, cell design/efficiency, electrolyte. So the only way is to experiment.

Generally the bigger the engine, the more hho you'll need.

Sorry, no hard, fast (easy) rules here.

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07-13-2008 08:49 AM
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ppomber Wrote:Does anyone know how much HHO is needed to run an IC engine? I suspect it might be something like air fuel ratio (for gasoline it's 14.7:1)

It takes A LOT more than you can make on board. Probably well over 100 LMP.
07-14-2008 07:06 AM
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Oh, I didn't know you meant to run "exclusive of gasoline". Hmm

I think you should stick to supplemental hho like the rest of us.

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07-14-2008 07:26 AM
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colchiro Wrote:Oh, I didn't know you meant to run "exclusive of gasoline". Hmm

I think you should stick to supplemental hho like the rest of us.

Thats cool, I have seen a lot of people getting the wrong idea and getting bummed when they can't run even a single cylinder motor off a cell. There is a lot of slick salesmanship out there that get people all wound up with wrong impressions. One guy was expecting to run an 11hp generator on a W4Gas cell...LOL! As a suppliment I did not see any real results until I hit .6 LPM on a 1.6 liter engine.
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07-14-2008 07:46 AM
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All good points, to be sure. What I would like to do is use my 390cc 7kw genny for a test mule.
Being a generator, it stays at 3600rpm, making it easier to calculate several different things such as air/fuel used.
I have done fuel usage calcs, based on a 1kw resistance heater for a fixed load.
The genny will run 30 minutes on 30 ounces of unleaded gas. One ounce a minute.
The genny is almost new, with about 15 hours on it, powered by Honda.
Let me pose a question;
Assuming the genny runs on 14.7:1 air/fuel ratio and knowing the genny uses 1 ounce of gasoline a minute, how do you figure out the air being used with that ounce of gasoline? (without HHO)
07-15-2008 06:18 PM
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