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My NEW Cell is FIXED!! UPDATE
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RE: My NEW Cell is FIXED!! UPDATE
If you have dry cells, you already have an efficient cell. All you can do is add what you can to get the output you need.

What size engine/vehicles? I suspect a double cell (11 or 13 plates) should get you around 2 LPM.

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12-17-2008 06:02 PM
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RE: My NEW Cell is FIXED!! UPDATE
colchiro Wrote:If you have dry cells, you already have an efficient cell. All you can do is add what you can to get the output you need.

What size engine/vehicles? I suspect a double cell (11 or 13 plates) should get you around 2 LPM.

OK. What would be the plate configuration for 11 and 13 plate cells?
12-18-2008 04:31 AM
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RE: My NEW Cell is FIXED!! UPDATE
Generally you'll want cell blocks with 4 or 5 neutrals.
-NNNNN+NNNNN- is the quick rocker of our world. Too few neutrals should overheat it. One more than this and there isn't enough voltage to get output.
(This post was last modified: 12-18-2008 06:28 AM by Gary.)
12-18-2008 06:27 AM
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Post: #34
RE: My NEW Cell is FIXED!! UPDATE
Gary Wrote:Generally you'll want cell blocks with 4 or 5 neutrals.
-NNNNN+NNNNN- is the quick rocker of our world. Too few neutrals should overheat it. One more than this and there isn't enough voltage to get output.

Thanks, Gary! John
12-18-2008 08:49 AM
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John Sargent Wrote:OK. What would be the plate configuration for 11 and 13 plate cells?

Gary and I are saying the same thing.

This is 11 plates (4 neutrals):
[+ N N N N - N N N N +]

This is 13 plates (5 neutrals)
[+ N N N N N - N N N N N +]

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12-18-2008 04:05 PM
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Or we could say 4N2 and 5N2. I find that even easier. But I really wanna build a 5N4.
12-18-2008 04:45 PM
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As my aunt Clara used to say, "If you wish in this hand and s*** in the other, which one will fill up first?"....Hmm

I guess we have our needs and our wants.

I thought introduced enough new terminology as it was so deliberately left that out.

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12-18-2008 05:42 PM
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RE: My NEW Cell is FIXED!! UPDATE
colchiro Wrote:
John Sargent Wrote:OK. What would be the plate configuration for 11 and 13 plate cells?

Gary and I are saying the same thing.

This is 11 plates (4 neutrals):
[+ N N N N - N N N N +]

This is 13 plates (5 neutrals)
[+ N N N N N - N N N N N +]

Rick,
You said 2 + and 1 -. Gary said 1 + and 2 -. Does it make a difference if you have 2 positives or 2 negatives? Not being nitpicky, just want to make sure I understand correctly. Thanks, John
12-19-2008 04:29 AM
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I don't believe it does, as evidenced by guys trying to get more production with bigger cathodes, but having a choice, I elect to put two GROUNDS on the outside and the shortable positive terminal in the center. Ya never know when one of your swinging wrenches is going to find it.
12-19-2008 06:55 AM
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Gary Wrote:I don't believe it does, as evidenced by guys trying to get more production with bigger cathodes, but having a choice, I elect to put two GROUNDS on the outside and the shortable positive terminal in the center. Ya never know when one of your swinging wrenches is going to find it.

I am on the same page with Gary. I too like to keep the negative on the outside and protect the positive leads. I am glad Gary said there was no difference because I was almost ready to post the same question; "what's the difference?".
Mine in 25 plates:
-nnnnn+nnnnn-nnnnn+nnnnn-
But could probably get more bang for the buck if I installed two 13 plate cells. Percentage wise, I don't get that much more output from the extra 12 plates whereas I could double by output with two cells.

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12-19-2008 10:20 AM
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