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Our new gen is superb!
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ghahai ghato Offline
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Big Grin Our new gen is superb!
Big Grin Yahoo... finally we've got a new gen up and running... plus it's performs well too;
- 5 amps produces 500ml/min
- no heat issue, runs cool
- auto/ semi-auto/ manual refill capability with indicator
It has a max capacity of 1.5L before foams begin to come through the hose...
After 1000km running, the electrolite is still clean... and i mean CLEAN!!!

The unit is hand-made from fiberglass, took us 1 month to figure out how to put things together after a short crash course with a fiberglass fabricator...Tongue
Well, it was still worth it after all the itch, scratch and cuts...Smile

Hmm... now that we've got a consistent gen it's time we get this computer thingy solved...

   
Pressure test passed... and I almost passed out too from blowing my lungs out...Laugh

   
1st 1000km service, wow, still clean... so the tedious plate preps kinda paid off...i think...

   
Side by side comparison; new gen electrolite vs previous gen...

   
Under the hood setup...
(This post was last modified: 10-14-2008 12:22 AM by ghahai ghato.)
10-14-2008 12:17 AM
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RE: Our new gen is superb!
what kind of setup do you have inside your fiberglass container?

just curious.

thanks
mike
10-14-2008 02:24 AM
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RE: Our new gen is superb!
daddymikey1975 Wrote:what kind of setup do you have inside your fiberglass container?

just curious.

thanks
mike

7 plates series... 8"x6" Smile
10-14-2008 09:05 PM
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RE: Our new gen is superb!
that's awesome. Smile

i hope to have my dry cell together and producing next week. will post results when the parts arrive.

mike
10-15-2008 01:49 AM
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RE: Our new gen is superb!
How did you setup up your auto refill? What did you use for a indicator?

Your pictures look good but it got me very curious as to your secrets Smile

Thanks,
Roy

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10-15-2008 09:20 AM
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RE: Our new gen is superb!
Thanx mike Smile... good luck with your dry cell... I'm sure you'll love it...

Well roy,

Brief description on our unit...
7 pcs 304 s/s plates 8" x 6" (cross-hatche, soaked in KOH for several days, cleaned and rinsed b4 installation)
6 cell in series design rated at maximum 15 amps = almost 1.5L/min (will go warm at this point)
-I believe it will improve even more after conditioning as this type of isolated cell (dry cell?) takes much longer to condition.
No secret here... just following what we read, through trial and agonizing error...
Refill:
1 s/s probe + 3volt bulb + negative terminal indicates the water level limit
Auto & semi auto refill - prototype ready & tested but lazy to put the parts neatly together...and since we only need refill once a week...ahh why bother at this moment...manual refill is fine...(we've built a fat reservoir inside ya...)

We've designed 2 shapes, 1 is coboid while the other with rounded corners and a wing-like mounting back... (will post photos soon...)

The main challenge now is to tackle the ECU....
10-15-2008 09:36 PM
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RE: Our new gen is superb!
ghahai ghato Wrote:Thanx mike Smile... good luck with your dry cell... I'm sure you'll love it...

Well roy,

Brief description on our unit...
7 pcs 304 s/s plates 8" x 6" (cross-hatche, soaked in KOH for several days, cleaned and rinsed b4 installation)
6 cell in series design rated at maximum 15 amps = almost 1.5L/min (will go warm at this point)
-I believe it will improve even more after conditioning as this type of isolated cell (dry cell?) takes much longer to condition.
No secret here... just following what we read, through trial and agonizing error...
Refill:
1 s/s probe + 3volt bulb + negative terminal indicates the water level limit
Auto & semi auto refill - prototype ready & tested but lazy to put the parts neatly together...and since we only need refill once a week...ahh why bother at this moment...manual refill is fine...(we've built a fat reservoir inside ya...)

We've designed 2 shapes, 1 is coboid while the other with rounded corners and a wing-like mounting back... (will post photos soon...)

The main challenge now is to tackle the ECU....

Thats a pretty clever idea for your indicator. I like having everything automated although very hard for the most part doing what were doing. I really like your indicator idea.
Thanks for posting!
Roy

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2001 Audi A6 2.8 Quattro
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10-22-2008 08:52 AM
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RE: Our new gen is superb!
ghahai ghato Wrote:Refill:
1 s/s probe + 3volt bulb + negative terminal indicates the water level limit

Very clever Indeed!. Green LED lit = water ok. Goes out, need a refill. I have been looking for water level gauges at 12 to 20 bucks and you do it for about 50 cents! Very Very nice!
10-22-2008 07:10 PM
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RE: Our new gen is superb!
Hmm... sorry guys, for messing up the wiring...Confused

Just to be on the safe side, we're using 12v bulb and an on/off switch (please use a toggle switch- much better!).

   

So, to refill - you first turn off the gen/ engine, then turn on the indicator switch and check the light (sorry for the bad drawing, i hope you guys get it...)

   
Off = low (or blown bulb)

   
On = full

Anyway, our gen is still clean after 3,000km... yahooo....
   

I've upped the amps to 11amps to check for heating issue on the terminals.
The issue now is it needs more frequent refills....Tongue around 100ml/hour of operation.
Will see if the terminals heats up after non-stop operation on a long trip...
10-30-2008 08:43 PM
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RE: Our new gen is superb!
ghahai ghato Wrote:I've upped the amps to 11amps to check for heating issue on the terminals.
The issue now is it needs more frequent refills.... around 100ml/hour of operation.

That can only mean you are producing some water vapor with your HHO. If my understanding is right: 1 mil of h20 produces about 1.83 L of HHO. So if you are just producing HHO that means that your system at the higher amps is producing 100ml (h2o) * 1.83 = 183 L (HHO). 183/ 60 min = 3.05 L/min HHO production. That seems very unlikely. So your system is producing enough heat to vaporize the H2O.
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And hey, don't worry about the drawings for the light. It is still a stroke of genius!Smile
10-31-2008 07:12 AM
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