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are my plates supposed to look like this?
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are my plates supposed to look like this?
been running a 7 plate series cell for over a month now. Stays between 10 and 20 amps. Just broke it down to rebuild as a 13 plate and was mildly suprised at how my plates looked. The orange tinted plates were either both the same polarity and the not so orange ones were the same polarity... ????

The claen section around the holes is where the rubber washers were.


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09-06-2008 11:19 AM
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what grade of ss? what kind of water? what electrolyte?
09-06-2008 11:27 AM
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304 SS, distilled water and NaOH
09-06-2008 11:45 AM
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they say that the cells need 316L ss is the only thing I can think of, does it rub off? and if not you can sand it off and keep on going but eventually the plates will need replacing. I think it is a sort of rust.
09-06-2008 11:50 AM
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My first cell looked like that. The dark plates were all "+".
09-06-2008 11:51 AM
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Our process to generate hydrogen is the same used to protect pipelines and ship hulls. Galvanitic protection using a sacrificial anode. During electrolysis the cathode gives off molecules if the electrodes are balanced they have no were to go. If the Cathode is smaller the molecules will adhere to the cathode instead of floating around free,in essence helping stop the oxidation of the cathode. Thats one reason the water gets murky because the molecules of ss build up with no were to go eventually breaking down and forming the rust. Try this a 60-40 ratio - to + because this will help with rust floaties and plate degredaiton. say you use 2x4 plates that is 16 sq inches per plate ( thats both sides) and you use two of them so you would have 32 square inches for negative so try having one plate 2x3 plate for positive, giving you 12 square inches (both sides) for positive.
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09-06-2008 12:29 PM
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RE: are my plates supposed to look like this?
jrior001 Wrote:been running a 7 plate series cell for over a month now. Stays between 10 and 20 amps. Just broke it down to rebuild as a 13 plate and was mildly suprised at how my plates looked. The orange tinted plates were either both the same polarity and the not so orange ones were the same polarity... ????

The claen section around the holes is where the rubber washers were.

My plates look just like that if not worse.I don't know of anyones to date that don't.What I have noticed is that from day one to present it has not affected output at all.If anything I get a fraction more output than when the cell was brand new.Btw I run 316L stainless in my cell.

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09-06-2008 01:06 PM
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Thanks....Some cleaner and a rag took about half of it off so i'm sure some light sanding would get the rest. Wasn't hampering production any, it was just kinda shocking to see. Gonna clean em up a bit and rebuild my cell with more plates. I have only been gettin about .6 lpm at 15 AMPS and it's not helping the milage in my JEEP so I'm doubling the plates in a different configuration to try to get more HHO.
09-06-2008 01:48 PM
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The more HHO the better. You're going to need an EFIE and a PWM too.
09-06-2008 03:36 PM
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EFIE I have, PWM i'm considering. Even with my small volume of HHO and EFIE I'm still only seeing minmal gains... max of 2 MPG difference on my best tank. I was averaging 17MPG and that week I hit 19.1. About an 11% gain but not enough over time to cover my investment so i'm tryin to get more HHO while i watch and wait for some more results from all the H2 only setups i keep reading aboutBig Grin
09-06-2008 05:21 PM
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