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blowing 20 amp fuses
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blowing 20 amp fuses
I have built the gas4free cell.My testing has not gone so well.The cell
seems to heat up as the amps rise and blows my 20 amp fuse.I have
thought about putting a pwm on to maintain the amp control.DOES
ANYONE HAVE THIS JUNK WORKING?No responses from e-mails to
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10-03-2008 05:33 PM
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RE: blowing 20 amp fuses
is this the wire hho cell? if so that is the basic version and if you look around the forum you will find many other more productive units. are you using distilled water and what are you using for electrolyte?

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10-03-2008 05:47 PM
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tonyc860 Wrote:is this the wire hho cell? if so that is the basic version and if you look around the forum you will find many other more productive units. are you using distilled water and what are you using for electrolyte?

Its the 11 plate design and I am using distilled water with a cap full
of solution I made up from baking soda.it seems to produce well
but the amps rise the longer you run it.
10-03-2008 05:55 PM
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RE: blowing 20 amp fuses
Get an ammeter on it so you know what it's doing.

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10-03-2008 06:25 PM
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RE: blowing 20 amp fuses
Too many plates ,not enough volume, and too much conductive material in the water.
You need to reduce the number of plates , put it in min 1000 mls of solution with 1 level tsp of bs ,Connect solid 316 x1/2" straps from gen to power contacts. and connect with #10 wire .good solid connectors.Gas for free. by the time you get that working you will have your hair ripped out.If you followed the book and used 5 tsp of salt in your solution you would blow the relay in 10 to 20 seconds. what a joke.
10-11-2008 08:58 PM
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RE: blowing 20 amp fuses
ranger Wrote:
tonyc860 Wrote:is this the wire hho cell? if so that is the basic version and if you look around the forum you will find many other more productive units. are you using distilled water and what are you using for electrolyte?

Its the 11 plate design and I am using distilled water with a cap full
of solution I made up from baking soda.it seems to produce well
but the amps rise the longer you run it.

Sorry to reply late, so many threads to read now...

I read on a post here that baking soda is a huge no no. it will produce a poisonous gas which is not only terrible for you but non productive. Many posts seem to show lye or koh as the best solution at 28% by volume.

what is the cell config on your 11 plates. you should have some neutral plates in there to reduce the amperage. I use a +nnnn- configuration. seems to be ok with pretty good gas production. More neutrals, less heat and gas. you need to find that happy median you are happy with based on vehicle. no point on putting out 20-30 amps if your vehicle can't handle it and you are buying new alternators.

What type of vehicle is this cell in?


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12-07-2008 09:34 AM
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Salt produces chlorine, which is poisonous.

Soda tends to rust out low grade SS.

Both are not recommended.

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12-07-2008 04:47 PM
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colchiro Wrote:Salt produces chlorine, which is poisonous.

Soda tends to rust out low grade SS.

Both are not recommended.


I couldn't remember it exactly but I knew it was bad. Quick question, my water in my dry cell turns very orange, very fast. I am using distilled water, but my plates are not 316. I use koh as electrolyte. My fittings are brass. Is it the fittings?

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12-08-2008 07:14 AM
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Brass doesn't like KOh, o/w I would have guessed rust. Is all your hardware SS?

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12-08-2008 04:04 PM
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colchiro Wrote:Brass doesn't like KOh, o/w I would have guessed rust. Is all your hardware SS?

yes but 304 and they are caked with rust/oxidation, i cleaned them up, and i'm going to see how they do, if not i'll need to replace them. thanks for the insight.

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