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building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
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building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
Hi folks,

Several months ago I began building a smack gen IV. I'd collected all the parts, but then got busy with other projects. The smack gen IV is a 6x6 dry cell with the holes drilled through the plates at the top only. one row of holes is for the "gas out" and the other row of holes was supposed to accommodate a tube slipped through it with tiny holes drilled in it so the liquid goes through those tiny holes and fills each cell individually.

after I began construction I learned that smack had ditched the idea of a "cell refill tube". I also found that drilling tiny holes in a thin tube and trying to get them to line up is a rotten pain in the neck.

now I've got 6x6 plates with the holes drilled on top, and I'd like to assemble a working dry cell.

If I just put it all together and leave out the "cell refill tube", and I connect the two nipples to hoses going to my reservoir will the cell work??

sorry guys, I have never built a dry cell before , and I heard there is something about it concerning "cycling of fluid"?.

I have no idea how dry cells work and I'm just wondering if this will mess up my cell as it has no hole at the bottom of the cell the way most dry cells appear to have.

my metal plates have just two holes on top like smack's original gen IV.

will it work??

Please help!! thanks!!
11-01-2010 05:25 PM
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RE: building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
Well what do you reckon... No holes at the bottom, how is the water suppose to flow in there... Holes are okay as long as you get as much edge sections flush with the gasket, you wont have any current leakage, only on about half of if the hole was in the centre for example. So just get a drill and place your holes in the lower corners, crossed stacked not too small not too big, the water has to flow fast in there.

Have a look and the holes on mine, I get over 6MMW

http://www.fuel-saver.org/Thread-Car-cel...t-NEW-PICS

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11-02-2010 01:20 AM
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RE: building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
continued from the original post.

here's this "thing" i'm left with after trying to build a smack gen 4 with out the cell refill tube.

will this freakin thing work??

http://yfrog.com/1sdrycellfrontj

http://yfrog.com/mkdrycellrearj

damn! it's my first attempt at building a dry cell.
is it gonna work??

is it necessary to drill holes at the bottom of the cell so the cells can all equalize?

I really do not want to take it apart again if not necessary.
11-02-2010 06:39 AM
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RE: building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
(11-02-2010 06:39 AM)fixityourselfer Wrote:  continued from the original post.

here's this "thing" i'm left with after trying to build a smack gen 4 with out the cell refill tube.

will this freakin thing work??

http://yfrog.com/1sdrycellfrontj

http://yfrog.com/mkdrycellrearj

damn! it's my first attempt at building a dry cell.
is it gonna work??

is it necessary to drill holes at the bottom of the cell so the cells can all equalize?

I really do not want to take it apart again if not necessary.

Why not just connect the thing up and see what happens! If it works, it works. If not, then you can worry about changing same.

You might want to consider adding a combined header tank/bubbler to your overall system design.
(This post was last modified: 11-02-2010 07:02 AM by benny.)
11-02-2010 06:55 AM
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RE: building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
fixityourselfer,
Yes the cell will work great without bottom holes, lose the tank if no bottom holes. Now refilling will be required every few hours of operation. I've ran one this way before, I used push lock fittings so the hose was easy to get out, then tip the cell so one hole is higher used as an air escape and lower hole used to fill. Small funnel or syringe is handy here. Fill to within 1/2" of holes when holes are level.
11-02-2010 05:05 PM
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RE: building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
Or shake it upside down every now and then... it'll equalize eventually

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11-03-2010 01:33 AM
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Rolleyes RE: building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
(11-03-2010 01:33 AM)Zipstor Wrote:  Or shake it upside down every now and then... it'll equalize eventually

Could be difficult if fitted in vehicle. . . . .Tongue

Might be wrong here, but, if memory serves, didn't Smack experiment with using fluid suckback from a bubbler to top up this type of generator? One reason for suggesting a bubbler/header tank in previous post. Lower requirement for servicing and, as an added bonus, no requirement to turn your vehicle upside down....Big Grin
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11-03-2010 05:29 AM
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RE: building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
Yes and that didn't work either. That's why he has seperate tank for each cell now, cell is allways full and little or no current leakage.
11-03-2010 11:58 AM
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RE: building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
I think I will try the cell the way it stands now, measure it's lpm, then drill bottom holes and see if the lpm goes down.

question:
when I drill bottom holes should I drill a straight line through all the plates and the liquid has a straight shot through the cell, or should the holes be staggered ? (1st plate gets a hole on the left of the plate, next plate gets a hole on the right...)
11-03-2010 03:00 PM
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RE: building a smack gen IV without the "cell refill tube"
If you are really into the idea of no hole at the bottom then I suggest you to build an external equalisation system...

Or you still can shake the vehicle upside down every now and then!

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11-04-2010 02:56 PM
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