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quick question
i have a 92 civic hatchback four cylinder
my unit is producing 80ml per minute at only 1.5A
ive had it running now for 20 minutes and the amps are not climbing
i have it wired in series
using KOH
heres my questions:

1. is 80ml per minute sufficient for a mileage boost?
2. should i wire it in parallel for more amps?, or keep it parallel and up the concentration of KOH?

thanks alot for your help

Grant

92 honda civic hatchback 30-34mpg before install.
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02-07-2009 08:39 AM
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RE: quick question
(02-07-2009 08:39 AM)clickhere255 Wrote:  i have a 92 civic hatchback four cylinder
my unit is producing 80ml per minute at only 1.5A
ive had it running now for 20 minutes and the amps are not climbing
i have it wired in series
using KOH
heres my questions:

1. is 80ml per minute sufficient for a mileage boost?
2. should i wire it in parallel for more amps?, or keep it parallel and up the concentration of KOH?

thanks alot for your help

Grant


Need more information.
What type of generator are you using?
What strength electrolyte?
What voltage are you supplying to your generator?
Are you using a PWM?
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RE: quick question
We usually recommend a minimum of 1 LPM for each 2 L of engine size.

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02-07-2009 09:19 AM
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RE: quick question
(02-07-2009 09:19 AM)colchiro Wrote:  We usually recommend a minimum of 1 LPM for each 2 L of engine size.

I've always read the required LPM for optimum mileage gains was a liter of hydroxy for every liter of motor displacement.

02-08-2009 03:50 AM
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Hi HG.

That's why I said a minimum. Last time I said 1-2 LPM per 2 L, Mike suggested that was excessive.Blush

Diesel engines displace more air so I suggest 1:1 for them.

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RE: quick question
(02-08-2009 07:48 AM)colchiro Wrote:  Hi HG.

That's why I said a minimum. Last time I said 1-2 LPM per 2 L, Mike suggested that was excessive.Blush

Diesel engines displace more air so I suggest 1:1 for them.

Rick
Has Mike given a reason or reasons why he thinks the sufficient amount is 1/2 a liter of hydroxy per liter of motor displacment?

02-09-2009 01:36 PM
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He has more experience with this than me (I just echo what I hear from our experienced users), but I think it depends a lot on the vehicle and the driver's style (drive like your grandma).

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02-09-2009 08:46 PM
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(02-09-2009 08:46 PM)colchiro Wrote:  He has more experience with this than me (I just echo what I hear from our experienced users), but I think it depends a lot on the vehicle and the driver's style (drive like your grandma).

Have you seen how his grandma drives? Scary.Gasp

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That's scary.Shocked

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02-10-2009 02:30 PM
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(02-09-2009 01:36 PM)hg2 Wrote:  
(02-08-2009 07:48 AM)colchiro Wrote:  Hi HG.

That's why I said a minimum. Last time I said 1-2 LPM per 2 L, Mike suggested that was excessive.Blush

Diesel engines displace more air so I suggest 1:1 for them.

Rick
Has Mike given a reason or reasons why he thinks the sufficient amount is 1/2 a liter of hydroxy per liter of motor displacment?
No one can accurately state how much hho is required per Ltr of engine. Mainly because there are too many variables involved. If you can change the parimeters of the ECU, to (let's say; 20/1) A/F ratio, Then, you would need very little hho. Actually, we all have been looking at using the hho to supplement the gas/diesel. Perhaps if we change that to using the gas/diesel to supplement the hho, we will start coming up with ways to increase our mpg's trememdously. Case in point; 1992 Toyota 4X4, extended cab, two W4G style generators, w/02 sensor wrapped in aluminum foil. For the last 8 months, daily driving in all terrain, (including city, hiway and 4wheeling,) averaging 50+ mpg.
Unusual?? Of course it is. But, it can and is being done. And please don't ask why the ECU hasn't taken over and reduced the mpg's. I don't know,
but I am working on finding out. Unfortunately, I don't have access to a dynometer so it has to be a case of "go figure". Big Grin
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