(08-29-2008 07:10 AM)Walt Wrote:
elcapitan Wrote:Hey guy glad to hear about all the responce about you at the gas stations. im in the process of starting my on affiliate program w4g. Very excited! I have a 1995 civic hatchback 1.6 liter with a secound w4g jar put in my car along with a little aluminuim foil wrapped around my oxy sensor. Going to test out milage this up coming mon.. I really think the underlying issue for my set up is going to get a map sensor. Havent had any mpg increase since i put the first cell in almost 3mos. ago. what is ur opion? thanks if u could help me out!
I have been encouraging water4gas on a regular basis to update the materials in the books. His coverage on the web. is everywhere. I am an associate and would like to promote these materials. That is where I got my start. In 60 days I have built 2 wirle units which gave little results...built 2 more units on the Lang Bros. design with the jars, using ss bolts and washers. This is where I got my first gain, good gas production and easy build. I am now at 46 mpg with my Honda 05 Civic using these 2 jars, 1 tsp. of baking soda per jar with Distilled water, a simple Map Sensor enhancer, and 2 oxyisolator shims under both my fuel to air and the lower oxygen sensor, which I did not need to deal with. That is nearly 25% mileage gain including the 4 mpg that the driving tips etc. gave me out of the water4gas books. Encourage the people, and Ozzie, to upgrade his :Dinfo. to include more on plate construction, etc. This will make it easier to work his system on selling his books also. He is very geneorous to his associates. I have built a Smack unit, however, I need more information before I hook it up for a test. Hey guys, I just had decals made and put them on my 05 Honda rear fenders today. I stopped for dinner at a resturant and people came flocking up asking about my car....It says, "[b]Water&Gas Hybrid .. Test Car![/ Print out some cards and refer them, or, give them some help. It sure draws attention at the gas stations also. It has been a fun 60 days. I am 82 and having the time of my life. I now laugh at high gas prices. I drove 142 miles the other day, up I-15 and when I topped the tank again, I had used 2.99 gallons of gas. I can sure live with that.
W4G is a joke!!! Substandard generator, proven to fail in time by hundreds, and electronics that just plane don't work on certain vehicles. At the same time claiming 30 to 50% gains in millage. Hmmm, and for $97.00... $97.00 is worth at least an hour and a half of research first. Witch you will get a pile more real info on in less than a minute. SCAM!!!
W4G is at best an 8th grade science project. W4G had the early momentum and hype and has hung on to a terrible design. If Ozzie was serious about this he would buy out someone else's design and rewrite his book.
I never learned how to solder and install a 555 timer with 5/6 of its pin-outs connected to many other components in the 8th grade. Read the book again. If you paid your monies worth, you would look a little deeper than just the ebook per say. Get on forum and immerse yourself. This can work on all cars it just that not every Joe Smuckatella can quick splice in an 'enhancer' to a vehicles sensor. It is serious, so serious that the very movement, if you will, that Mr. Freedom started is meeting on a regular basis. Unfortunately, I think he is too busy simplifying this for Smucks like you.
(10-07-2008 11:03 PM)jackofalltrades Wrote: Ozzie was in Modesto (California) this last weekend. There were a couple other "home brew" system cars there also. Ozzie had a milk crate with 6 (maybe 8) mason jars with his version or the generators, and some fancy looking gizmos under the hood of his Jetta TDI. Looked real fancy. This other guy came down from the foothills in Mariposa (Calif.) in a KIA. Under the hood was ONE jar, a separator, a EFIE device and amp meter on his dash. Real simple set up. His plates were spatulas he got at the dollar tree! It looked like his one jar was producing adequate gas for his application. It is hard to tell visually how much gas is being produced, but the low tech design was drawing more attention. I am starting my first system on my Toyota this week, and will go low tech.
Ozzie said he will update his info as his research continues and purchasers of his books will have access to this.
I personally have not bought this as I was just laid off and funds are tight, also I like to DIY these types of things. This was my observation and asking questions, both systems produced desirable results. Better than no system at all. I don't remember the exact figures but I think it was Jetta (diesel) flat land run from Bakersfield to Modesto...90 MPG and Kia (gas) hilly driving, mostly downhill from Mariposa...close to the same. The Kia guy said he has to tweak the EFEI to get better mileage going up hill.
EFEI to get better mileage going up hill. How did he say he 'tweaked' it tweaker? Did he decrease the output voltage? That would decrease the resistance to the sensor.
Throw down. If you where smart you would use your computer.