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tjh566 Offline
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water4gas help
why does this happen?

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works great for awhile then melts my tower and shorts out together... whats up with that?

running 2 in series, 9.3amps
06-22-2008 11:30 AM
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RE: water4gas help
How hot is your water when this happens?
06-22-2008 12:08 PM
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RE: water4gas help
im not sure, but the wires that are under the water dont melt the tower at all, just the ones out of the water.
06-22-2008 12:33 PM
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RE: water4gas help
That happens because the w4g design is junk. But seriously, the same thing happened to me when I tried that design. I'm not sure why, but it's probably the whole thing heating up from the current being drawn. 9 amps sounds like way too much current to be running through that design. If I'm not mistaking it should be closer to 2-3 amps.
06-22-2008 01:09 PM
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not much production at 3 amps, 9amps was decent
06-22-2008 01:58 PM
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That's the whole point. This design doesn't produce hardly any gas at a practical amperage it was designed to run at.


tjh566 Wrote:not much production at 3 amps, 9amps was decent
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06-22-2008 02:10 PM
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RE: water4gas help
ahh yes, after re-reading the the water4gas book it does say 1-3amps, i didnt realize this, after reading alot on here you guys always say around 10 amps is optimal so i went for that, the water4gas system cant handle that much but at the low amps it doesn't produce much.

edit side note: the car ran great while it did, seems to like HHO, ran sooo smoooth, cant wait to get a good HHO cell going
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06-22-2008 04:03 PM
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With that kind of amperage going through what looks to be about 20ga wire, its bound to get pretty hot. The submersed wire was probably kept cooler by the water and you were most likely producing some steam with your hydrogen. The unsubmersed wire was allowed to heat up and this caused the meltdown. Was there an explosion when the wires shorted out? Pop the top maybe?
Is that copper wire? It must produce a bunch of green/black goo in the water huh?
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06-23-2008 07:09 PM
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You could re-design your tower so the wires start to touch the plastic below water level - this would be an easy fix.
06-23-2008 08:26 PM
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RE: water4gas help
switched to 2.5" by 5.5" plates instead of wires, works better
06-24-2008 02:23 PM
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