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winter is on it's way
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winter is on it's way
I have done some freeze tests with solid rsults ie it froze
I am using koh and tried adding rubing acohol
what ts every 1 else using

OK thanks for the input Ill try both. the problem with letting it freeze is I'm using 3" and 4" pvc for gen. and recovery tank for bubbler.
plastic cracks!
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09-21-2008 03:44 AM
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RE: winter is on it's way
Windshield washer fluid, "heet", heh. Ahhhh Even if it freezes, the electrodes should unthaw it fairly quickly, one would think.
Try it, freeze it again, then plug it in, see what happens, as far as amp draw, and time to unthaw.
09-21-2008 03:48 AM
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RE: winter is on it's way
howiemandel Wrote:Windshield washer fluid, "heet", heh. Ahhhh Even if it freezes, the electrodes should unthaw it fairly quickly, one would think.
Try it, freeze it again, then plug it in, see what happens, as far as amp draw, and time to unthaw.
I thought about heet no adverse reaction to production
09-21-2008 04:05 AM
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RE: winter is on it's way
Mark Lee Wrote:
howiemandel Wrote:Windshield washer fluid, "heet", heh. Ahhhh Even if it freezes, the electrodes should unthaw it fairly quickly, one would think.
Try it, freeze it again, then plug it in, see what happens, as far as amp draw, and time to unthaw.
I thought about heet no adverse reaction to production

Yeah, I hope you've tested things you're recommending before recommending them.

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09-21-2008 04:35 AM
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RE: winter is on it's way
I've tested heet, and windshield washing fluid. both worked fine. In fact in some circles, windshield washing fluid, is the cats meow.
But no, i did do the windshield washing fluid and its great. Besides, ever have your windshield washer fluid freeze? You mighta had the hole in your wiper/hood sprayer freeze, but not your fluid. And, methanol is a good thing when it comes to the motor anyways.
09-21-2008 05:12 AM
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Heet is methanol? NASA was using methanol for an electrolyte. Hmmm....
09-21-2008 12:53 PM
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RE: winter is on it's way
Gary Wrote:Heet is methanol? NASA was using methanol for an electrolyte. Hmmm....

I would be very leary about using methanol in my cell, or even isopropynol or ethanol for that matter. They have very low flash points and could burst into flames if your cell overheats. Non-toxic antifreese that is used in RV and Boat water systems would be the best choice. It is not flammable and it does not contain any organic matter that would adversely affect the electrolyte solution.
09-22-2008 08:50 AM
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True. But windshield fluid........ you could toss that stuff on fire to put it out. And it dont freeze up.
09-22-2008 10:28 AM
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RE: winter is on it's way
Well, let's take an uneducated guess and say that NASA was using an electrolyser to produce their hydrogen or mix. (I just saw a post that it had to do with making H or H2 Or HHO; I don't know anything else)
IF you were to use something like a dry cell, and kept the liquid level up high in the reservoir, there would be little heat, and little gas to explode. I know that diesel fuel and even gasoline has been used by some people, lab, or organization to make HHO, so this might be something viable. Perhaps one of those SS containers that are the negative electrode of the unit?
Just wondering out loud.
09-22-2008 04:10 PM
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RE: winter is on it's way
nuclear1 Wrote:
Gary Wrote:Heet is methanol? NASA was using methanol for an electrolyte. Hmmm....

I would be very leary about using methanol in my cell, or even isopropynol or ethanol for that matter. They have very low flash points and could burst into flames if your cell overheats. Non-toxic antifreese that is used in RV and Boat water systems would be the best choice. It is not flammable and it does not contain any organic matter that would adversely affect the electrolyte solution.

Antifreeze has an anti electrolysis additive in them. I don't think you want that in a hydrolizer?
09-22-2008 04:31 PM
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